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Sat, 23 Sep 2023 07:25:59 +0000

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ET4
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Location: Newquay
 
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ET4
Joined: Sat, 23 Sep 2023 07:00:25 +0000
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Location: Newquay
Sat, 23 Sep 2023 07:25:59 +0000 quote
I purchased an old ET4 in brighton last week and rode it back to newquay. Issue was this bike struggles to go above 30.

I watched a couple videos and looked around and decided to try and replace the belt and rollers to see if the issue would resolve.

After looking at the transmission i am confused as to what model it is. It doesnt match the manual or the videos i watched, neither do the holding tools to remove the variator fit as they should, the ring holder not at all.

The variator discs(not sure the term) seem to be worn down and damaged toward the center. Im guessing these parts should be replaced ?

I hope the pictures are good enough to see what im dealing with.
Thanks for taking time out of your days to help, as im a bit lost.

(TLDR): What model variant is the transmission on this old ET4 and is it broken ?
Transmission no cover
Variator (i think?) & the holding tools
Model on back of variator part
Sun, 01 Oct 2023 02:39:12 +0000

Molto Verboso
2006 LX150 (carbed) | 2007 GT200
Joined: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 14:22:10 +0000
Posts: 1847
Location: Toronto
 
Molto Verboso
2006 LX150 (carbed) | 2007 GT200
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Location: Toronto
Sun, 01 Oct 2023 02:39:12 +0000 quote
Hello, and welcome!

I don't know enough about the insides of an ET4 to say if that's normal. But I wish you well to get it sorted out and running!

Hopefully someone with more experience will see this and chime in...
Sun, 01 Oct 2023 11:01:03 +0000

Member
LX 125 '07
Joined: Mon, 28 Aug 2023 14:36:12 +0000
Posts: 22
Location: London
 
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LX 125 '07
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Posts: 22
Location: London
Sun, 01 Oct 2023 11:01:03 +0000 quote
did you check the carburator?
I had similar issue with this membrane(6), niddle(4) and seat (5) being put together in the wrong way. Check this first, as the clutch you can only clean with sand paper to make it clean of rust.

The membrane itself clould be broken too.

Mon, 02 Oct 2023 04:31:20 +0000

Veni, Vidi, Posti
GT 2.4
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Location: NWAOK
 
Veni, Vidi, Posti
GT 2.4
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Mon, 02 Oct 2023 04:31:20 +0000 quote
That is what is commonly referred to as a Pre-Leader ET4. This was Piaggio's first four stroke cvt driven motor that was produced in-house. Piaggio sold a bunch of Libertys to the Italian Postal Service with that motor, and quite a few of them are still on the road. Piaggio doesn't sell a lot of parts for it anymore, but there are a lot of OEM parts still available through some of the bigger Italian aftermarket sources, like RMS. You can still get a cylinder kit, intake manifold, gasket kits, variator, clutch, clutch bell, cdi and coil, to name a few. The body stuff is the same as the Leader engine ET4, so trim and switches from all years ET2 and ET4 are pretty interchangeable. The carb on that should be a Dellorto, not a CVK like the modern Leader engines came with.
Make sure that any engine parts you get are for the Pre-leader, because most of that isn't interchangeable with the newer bike.
Mon, 02 Oct 2023 05:34:59 +0000

Petty Tyrant
0:7 And counting
Joined: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 05:12:11 +0000
Posts: 35536
Location: Bay Area, California
 
Petty Tyrant
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Location: Bay Area, California
Mon, 02 Oct 2023 05:34:59 +0000 quote
Motovista wrote:
This was Piaggio's first four stroke cvt driven motor that was produced in-house.
Just curious -- what engine was in the (second series) Piaggio Sfera?

(I know the first series was 2T).
Mon, 02 Oct 2023 07:33:29 +0000

Sergeant at Arms
Weird 80's Vespas & Cool Vintage Lambrettas
Joined: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 19:59:19 +0000
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Location: The state of insanity, SoCal
 
Sergeant at Arms
Weird 80's Vespas & Cool Vintage Lambrettas
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Location: The state of insanity, SoCal
Mon, 02 Oct 2023 07:33:29 +0000 quote
jess wrote:
Just curious -- what engine was in the (second series) Piaggio Sfera?

(I know the first series was 2T).
to my knowledge 95~98 they were the same as this motor. shared it with the hexagon, liberty (the OG one), mojito/habana
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